Len Joy is the author of the new novel Everyone Dies Famous. His other books include the novels American Past Time and Better Days. He lives in the Chicago area.
Q: How did you come up with
the idea for Everyone Dies Famous?
A: My first novel, American
Past Time, is about a man named Dancer Stonemason who is an up-and-coming minor
league pitcher for a Missouri minor league baseball team.
It’s
September 1953 and just before the game Dancer’s
manager tells him he’s been called up to
pitch for the St. Louis Cardinals in their Labor Day doubleheader. His young
son Clayton has come to see him pitch for the first time so the manager tells
Dancer he can pitch the first three innings.
Dancer retires the first nine
batters easily. He convinces his manager not to take him out until someone gets
a hit. He ends up pitching a perfect game, but injures his arm and never gets
his shot at the majors.
Dancer’s
life unravels. He quits baseball, goes to work in a factory to support his
family, starts drinking, his wife has an affair, and Clayton, who idolized his
father, grows to hate him. The story covers post-war America from the ‘50s up
through the war in Vietnam.
It’s
a story of redemption and second chances. (In my second novel, Better Days, a
man who has coasted through life on the fading memory of high school glory has
to get back in the game in order to save his lifelong friend. I guess you could
say I’m interested in stories of what
happens after the cheering stops.)
At the end of American Past
Time, Dancer leaves Maple Springs and his checkered past behind. He’s starting a new life. When I began thinking about a new
novel, I played the “What if” game. What
if Dancer returned to Maple Springs as an old man? What if, after all these years, he finally
reconciles with his son, Clayton? And then what if Clayton dies?
The novel begins with a
grief-stricken Dancer trying to find a purpose in life. It’s
a standalone novel – you don’t have to
read American Past Time to understand and enjoy the story. For me it was fun to return to the town and
characters I had created and imagine what they would be like 25 years later.
Q: The book is set in a small
town in Missouri. How important is setting to you in your writing?
A: I grew up in Canandaigua,
New York – a small town in western New York. I moved to Chicago after college
and I remember expecting that “city”
people would be a lot different from the folks I grew up with, but they weren’t. There was just a lot more of them.
Everyone Dies Famous is set
in a small town in southern Missouri. The small-town setting is important. I
wanted a town that was big enough that folks didn’t
know everyone, but small enough that there weren’t
many degrees of separation. A character might not know another character, but
he or she would know someone who did.
The story has several
subplots and the characters in each subplot are in some way connected. The
small-town setting makes that possible and I hope, plausible.
Q: Did you know how the novel
would end before you started writing it, or did you make many changes along the
way?
A: When I begin a story, I usually
have a notion about where it is going to end and maybe even a rough idea how.
But I don’t commit to that. I focus on
putting the characters I create into situations, (like trying to survive a
tornado). Oftentimes the characters deal with those situations differently than
I expected, and as a result the ending I initially imagined doesn’t
work.
Robert Boswell, in his craft
book, The Half-Known World, argues that
it is important that as writers we not know everything about our character when
we begin to write. Not knowing everything provides us the opportunity to be
surprised.
When I started this novel, I
knew it would end in a day, and that was a useful frame. But I didn’t know how it would end. Or who would survive.
Q: What do you hope readers
take away from the story?
A: I hope readers like the characters I’ve created as much as I do. There is an unfortunate tendency in the news and social media to label people. Pigeonhole them as liberal, conservative, red-state, blue-state, elite, deplorable, etc.
My life experiences have
taught me that people are multi-faceted. We are all flawed human beings. I try
to create characters that are realistically flawed. My hope is that readers will enjoy hanging
out with these characters even if they are not likely to associate with them in
the real world.
But mostly my hope is that
readers will enjoy the story.
Q: What are you working on
now?
A: I have just finished
another novel that is set in Phoenix at the millennium. It’s
about fateful decisions and the criminal justice system. The title is Dry Heat.
Q: Anything else we should
know?
A: For the last 20 years I
have been training and competing in mutli-sport endurance events. I have
completed over 80 triathlons and in 2017 I ran in the Boston Marathon. I
compete internationally representing the United States as part of TEAM USA.
--Interview with Deborah Kalb
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