TaraShea Nesbit is the author of the new historical novel Beheld. She also has written The Wives of Los Alamos, and her work has appeared in a variety of publications, including Granta and Salon. She is an assistant professor at Miami University, and she lives in Oxford, Ohio.
Q:
You write, "In telling this story, I wanted to add more possibilities to
our collective imagination about 'the pilgrims.'" What possibilities did
the novel add?
A:
First, thanks so much for the interview, Deborah, and for spending time with Beheld
and me!
I
was taught in K-12 that the Mayflower passengers were a unified group seeking
freedom from religious persecution and after five years of research, I came to
see that a lot was left out of that version of the story.
For
instance, about 20 to 25 percent of the Mayflower passengers were servants to
the separatist puritans. One thing I wanted to explore was the class conflict
that might have emerged from these inequalities, as well as religious
differences between the indentured servants and their masters.
The
class and gender differences within the colony were on my mind, as well as the
settlers’ culpability in inflicting violence upon the communities of people who
had lived in the northeastern woodlands for thousands of years, and are still
living here.
The
first murder trial in Plymouth, in 1630, became a way to explore a particular
complicated time in our country’s history. Characters in the book also point
out that the first murder trial in Plymouth was not the first murder by a
Plymouth colonist. Rather, it was the first record of a person being tried for
murder and I hope the novel offers some exploration of why and how that trial
came to be.
In
some ways, the most imaginative leap I took was imagining that the settlers,
especially the women colonists, existed as humans—with faults, reflections,
weaknesses, complicated desires, and love.
Q:
How would you describe life for women in Plymouth, and how did you conduct your
research for the book?
A:
I imagine they did many of the same kinds of things many women do now, and
particularly familiar to anyone who has tried subsistence living: cared for
children, cooked meals, cleaned, gardened, milked cows, supported their
husbands, communed with their friends, responded to crises--like infants’
deaths, the mortality rate being what it was, theft and unsavory new arrivals
to their community--although with the undertone, always, of reflecting on one’s
relationship to God.
As
a group, separatist puritans were large journal writers. They were quite reflective
and supportive of reading, but no journals of women in Plymouth from 1630 exist
that I know of. I imagine them as a mostly physically healthy group—all that
fresh air, as opposed to their former city lives in Leiden, Amsterdam, and
London.
I
imagine they had economic concerns—worrying about how well the trading posts
were doing, for instance, and trying to pay off debts to financial backers.
Maybe their husbands were the ones doing this worry work, but like many families,
the women were taking on the emotional burden of their husbands’ concerns as
well as of living a life in a community.
To
write the book, I researched for five years. For the women, we basically have
nothing. The signature Dorothy Bradford made on her wedding day. The court
record written by a man about Eleanor Billington, a former indentured servant. Alice
Bradford’s last will and testament. The accounts of the women are penned by men
in positions of authority.
When
I learned that Plymouth Governor William Bradford didn’t write about how his
first wife, Dorothy, perished, though he mentions the cause of death of the
many others that passed away that first winter in the northeastern woodlands, I
could not stop thinking about her.
Sufficiently
haunted by Dorothy’s ghost, I read all the primary documents I could find and a
zillion books analyzing the primary documents—I won’t bore you with the names,
but Beheld’s reading guide provides several.
I
took several trips to Plymouth and Provincetown and visited museums in both
places. I walked the lands, took ferries, and sat on beaches. I spent a summer
in England. I took my husband, newborn, and 3-year-old with me for a summer in Massachusetts
while I was on a fellowship at the American Antiquarian Society.
I
studied maps and reviewed court records from Amsterdam and Plymouth. I birthed
three children. I had many conversations over five years with historians, scholars,
knowledge holders, novelists, friends, and translators. When I began to see
conflicting evidence in the research—when two or more narrative accounts of the
same events reached vastly different conclusions—I wrote.
Q:
How was the novel's title chosen, and what does it signify for you?
A:
I liked how “beheld” has multiple connotations. I like how it evokes both
“seeing” and “holding” as well as the word’s origins, from the Old
English bihaldan, bi- “thoroughly” and haldan “to hold”.
I
thought of “beheld” as a word that suggests an attempt to thoroughly
hold—people, history, truth, belief, another—and how it also suggests a gathering
towards knowledge. Plus the frequency of usage in the Bible might evoke the
religious aspects of the story.
Q:
The book includes a variety of historical figures. What did you see as the
right blend between the historical and the fictional versions of these people?
A:
Very little is known about most of the women and not much about the interiority
of many of the men, either, excepting William Bradford, who wrote a third
person plural narrative of the colony and its people.
But
anyone who tells stories to their friends and family knows that even a primary
document like Bradford’s is a slanted document: what one person would write down
“for the historical record” might be quite different than what we might feel in
our hearts, late at night, or what we might tell our partner, and all renditions
hold something true.
“To
writers,” says Brenda Wineapple, “history is more contingent than assumed.”
I
think different projects require different strategies and balances of the
verifiable with the non-verifiable. This in part depends upon what stories
emerge in the conversation among the archive, gaps in the archive, historical
traces counter to the archive, the muses, and the writer’s imagination, as well
as the overall project of the book.
Margaret
Atwood aptly said, reflecting on her historical novel, Alias Grace: “A
different writer, with access to exactly the same historical records could
have—and no doubt would have—written a very different sort of novel.”
If
a person has never spoken in the historical record, as Alice Bradford, Eleanor
Billington, and Dorothy Bradford have not, it is hard to draw conclusions about
the historical version of their interior lives. Fiction was both freeing and
terrifying—nothing they ever said or felt is verifiable.
Q:
What are you working on now?
A:
A multi-generational family saga of the matrilineal line that explores the
lives of working-class and working-poor women and their children, set in the Ohio
valley of my youth.
Q:
Anything else we should know?
A:
On Twitter, I post writing exercises from the creative writing classes I teach and
celebrate good news so if either of those things appeal to you, feel free to
follow along. I’m at @t_nesbit.
--Interview with Deborah Kalb
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