Thursday, January 23, 2020

Q&A with Peggy Patterson Garland

Peggy Patterson Garland is the author of the book Never Pleasing to the World: A Man and His Slaves, which focuses on the life of Robert Carter III, an 18th century plantation owner who emancipated 500 enslaved people. Garland is an attorney who served two terms as Commonwealth's Attorney in Virginia. She lives in Westmoreland County, Virginia.

Q: Why did you decide to focus your book on the life of Robert Carter III?

A: I admire him. He was a contemporary of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and the two Lee brothers who signed the Declaration of Independence. Washington and the Lees were born in this same small county where Carter lived. 

And yet, Carter has never gotten much credit for setting in motion the freeing of 500 slaves in 1791. He had an unusual relationship with his slaves. And they are interesting people in their own right. Carter was an intelligent, farsighted, and courageous man to do what he did in his society in his time.

Q: Would you consider this book a novel or a blend of history and fiction?

A: It is a novel based on historical fact.

Q: How did you research the book, and did you learn anything that especially surprised you?

A: I researched by reading an incredible amount about the time in history and the places where Carter went. I also visited most of the places Carter went. I live in the county where his primary plantation was located and I know many descendants of his and of his enslaved people who live here today. 

The library at Colonial Williamsburg, the Virginia Historical Society, the Northern Neck of Virginia Historical Society, the Westmoreland County (Virginia) library, as well as libraries in Savannah, Georgia, and Annapolis, Maryland, were very helpful.

Colonial Williamsburg is an incredible treasure trove of information about Virginia in Colonial times and the people who lived and made history then and there. 

I relied heavily on Carter’s letter books and writings and biographies of his contemporaries. A very important source was the doctoral thesis of John Randolph Barden done at Duke University, called “Flushed with Notions of Freedom, the Growth and Emancipation of a Virginia Slave Community.”

Q: What do you see as Robert Carter III's legacy today?

A: His manumission actually created a free black community which began in 1791 and which has continued into the present. I think his story is a part of the discussion of race which we are having in this country now.

Q: What are you working on now?

A: I’m working on a memoir about my life as a female “come-here,” practicing law and running for elected office in a small rural county

Q: Anything else we should know?

A: The story of slavery in the United States is a lot more multi-faceted than most people realize.

--Interview with Deborah Kalb


  1. As a family member of a few of the People Carter Freed I am seeking some assistance in having the State of Virginia made more aware of what Robert Carter did for our Families, Can someone please reach out to me please

  2. As a Carter ancestor of Robert III, I find this book so far in full agreement with other Historical books I have read on Landon, Robert III and Robert E. Lee's Daughters. Always wondered why I wrote a diary and now I know. Thank you Ms. Garland for writing this great book.

  3. Hi Deborah, I am a descendant of Hannah Spence(r), freed by Robert Carter. Thank you for the interview, bringing Peggy's book to my attention. Thank you.

    1. Thank you so much for letting me know, and you're very welcome.