R. Clifton Spargo |
Q: Why did you decide to focus
on this particular period in the lives of Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald?
A: One of the results — somewhat
unfortunate, as I see it — of the recent Zelda and Scott revival, spurred by
films from Woody Allen’s Midnight in Paris to Baz Luhrmann’s The Great Gatsby,
is that we’ve focused, yet again, on the young, high-society, recklessly
hard-living couple who stand for the roaring ‘20s in our collective imagination.
Scott and Zelda, they signify
all that is self-absorbed and yet somehow glamorous, beautiful and yet
altogether foolish. It’s a story Scott himself started to spin about the
excesses of the 1920s, well before the Wall Street Crash of October 1929. Americans, he warned as early as 1926, were going
to pay a heavy price for all the fun they were having.
In Beautiful Fools,
I wanted to investigate two famous people after their “fifteen minutes” are up.
Granted, Scott and Zelda would get more than fifteen minutes in the long run. They’ve
become the stuff of legend in American literature and international pop culture.
But, originally, their fame was
relatively short-lived; the fall from grandeur, cruel and devastating. By the
mid 1930s they were forgotten. She, no longer the “it girl” muse,
suffered several mental breakdowns starting in early 1930, spending the rest of
her life in and out of institutions, living most of the next decade in severe
duress. He, no longer the voice of a generation or the “Jazz Age,” suffered
from depression, desperate alcoholic binges, and a precipitously declining
literary star.
What they endured was, in
some sense, their own personal great depression. The analogy is almost too
eerie — Zelda was the age of the century, and broke down only months after the
Wall Street Crash. Scott served up fictional accounts of their story — Babylon Revisited perhaps the finest among this sort — in which he treated their
tragic fall from grace as a kind of punishment tale.
So I decided to enter into
their lives in the 1930s — a prologue set in 1932 in the midst of Zelda’s
second breakdown; the rest of my novel set in the spring of 1939, a year and half
before Scott’s death.
On the surface things appear
to be as bleak as they’ve ever been for Zelda and Scott. Beautiful Fools is a
tragic tale, no shying away from that tag — their lives assume tragic form in
the 1930s, and as a writer I’m highly committed (though hardly exclusively) to
the genre of tragedy.
What I don’t believe,
however, is that we write or read tragedy to relish the punishment of those who’ve
overreached or wished for too much. It’s far too simplifying to say that a
hero’s tragic flaw precipitates his or her ruin, that misfortunes suffered by
the protagonist can be reckoned by a calculus of “deserving what you get.”
As I understand the genre —
and what I’ve tried to do with it in Beautiful Fools — “tragedy” is about the
arbitrariness of misfortune, about external circumstances that conspire with
our own mistakes, about sufferings that speak to us in our real and potential
vulnerabilities. Tragedy is about the gap between what we desire in the world
and what we’re able to achieve.
Tragic heroes, such as
Fitzgerald’s own Gatsby, may often be failed idealists, but that doesn’t mean
they’re wrong for having tried to expand the horizons of their humanity and
ours.
Q: What accounts for people’s
continuing fascination with the Fitzgeralds?
A: Many things really. For
starters, there’s the ongoing attempt to do justice to Zelda in her own right,
not just as the whimsical, beautiful, and reputedly unbalanced famous wife of a
great author. Much of that effort started with Nancy Milford’s magnificent 1970
biography Zelda, and the fascination has ebbed and flowed for decades as so
many things do in American culture.
Still, second-wave feminism
took up Zelda’s cause as a creative personality and force, as frustrated
artist, as someone who was more than just some albatross on her husband’s neck
(the view popularized by Ernest Hemingway), but who was a victim of her own
tragic fate as a true personage.
Milford helped us to see Zelda’s
story as testimony to the historical restraints placed on women as citizens and
as makers of culture. And so much of the
late, late love story of the Fitzgeralds, as I tell it, depends on a dauntless
and endlessly creative Zelda, whose efforts to revive a love affair with her
husband continued to the very end, even after all the internally and externally
motivated adversities their love had weathered.
In some circles, the mythic
force of Zelda’s beguiling if wildly unpredictable personality — perpetuated in
part by Scott’s diverse portraits of Zelda-like women in his fiction — accounts
for the Fitzgeralds’ allure.
Glenn Frey wrote the Eagles’
famous 1970s hit “Witchy Woman,” or so the story goes, after reading Milford’s
biography. And yet, when he sings of a
woman “who drove herself to madness with a silver spoon,” he’s imagining
himself as a Scott Fitzgerald-like man spellbound by seductive charms that are indistinguishable
from madness.
In short, “Witchy Woman” owes
as much to the lore of Zelda perpetuated by Hemingway and John Dos Passos — each
of whom swore, separately, to perceiving Zelda as “off” on first meeting her — as
to the Milford biography.
In a similar fashion, Woody
Allen portrays a young Zelda in Midnight in Paris as wildly uninhibited,
free-associative, and, yes, altogether zany.
That’s the kind of women he falls for, Allen explained in an interview,
in real life and the movies: “I've
always had a... CRUSH on women like Zelda Fitzgerald. Now, this is very self-destructive. I've always selected in my lifetime women who
had that, uh, that uh… sort of streak of insanity in them that she has.”
Maybe we’re drawn to the lore
of Scott and Zelda because their extravagant behavior and often self-destructive
tendencies substitute for the risks — some of them stupid, some of them brave —
we won’t take. A friend said to me after reading my novel, “Everybody thrills
to watch a good train wreck now and then.”
That’s one way of viewing
Zelda and Scott’s story: There but for
the grace of God go I. By embodying our reckless or illicit desires, they
exorcize our capacity for excess. It’s
my sense that there’s a new cultural urgency for us in this kind of story, as
we’ve been living in the greatest recession economy since the Great Depression.
But this fascination with
excess and ruin isn’t a recent phenomenon. It informs, for example, the way we talk
about rock stars from Elvis to Kurt Cobain to Amy Winehouse. We’re fascinated and appalled by creativity
pushed to the extreme of self-indulgence and self-destruction. We stand and admire with stunned ambivalence,
then step back from it all.
As a storyteller, though,
it’s my job to break down — for a little while at least — our sense of being at
a safe distance from the hurt and wreckage. I’m fascinated by the nature and extent
of Zelda’s mental illness, and I want my reader to experience her symptoms as she
might have experienced them.
Maybe that will lead some
among us to intuit the hardships and costs of mental illness, the hurt for the
patient and for loved ones such as Scott; and maybe it will inspire us to rethink
simplifying premises about sanity and our use of lazy, ungenerous slang such as
“crazy” or “psycho.”
Similarly, I want to bring my
reader as close as I can to Scott’s darkest hours so as to experience the toll
his alcoholism and depression must have taken on Zelda, even as I also show his
resilience, the graceful capacity for kindness he always retained.
My favorite book of modern
psychology is Freud’s The Psychopathology of Everyday Life, with its basic
premise that everything Freud learned about those suffering from debilitating
mental illnesses could be applied to himself and the rest of so-called ordinary
folks as a mirror reflecting everyday neuroses in behavior.
Freud believed that our being
was inseparable from the simple psychopathologies through which we experience
the world. Even something as simple as forgetting a neighbor’s name (one we remembered
only yesterday) might hint at the mind’s strange workings, suggesting the
ongoing struggle between retaining and losing our past selves that we undertake
at every minute of every day.
So, again for me, Beautiful
Fools isn’t about the distance we create as readers between ourselves and Zelda
and Scott. It’s about what we can see of – and learn about — ourselves in their
brilliant passion and awful demise.
Q: How did you blend the
historical with the fictional as you wrote Beautiful Fools? What combination of history and fiction did
you feel was right for the story you were telling?
A: Much of what drew me
inside this story were the gaps — or should I say the gaping holes — in the history.
If you read all the biographies about Scott and Zelda, as I’ve done, you come
to the end of their romance only to arrive at Scott’s death by heart attack in
Hollywood in late 1940, and then suddenly you’re flipping back through the
biography in question, whispering to yourself, “Wait, when did they last see
each other?”
And this novel is the story
of that last meeting: on a holiday in
Cuba, in April of 1939, about which biographers or historians know almost
nothing.
History provides the frame, then,
and all of the novelistic detail has to be researched thoroughly and fictionalized
with verisimilitude in the fashion of strong historical fiction.
But there’s space too for the
imagination in the midst of the historical facts. And I was drawn to the
scenario as much as to anything else — the idea of a no-longer-famous couple
getting one last chance to salvage their passionate if highly tumultuous love
affair, all the while not knowing it was to be their last chance. Just that
scenario alone made this a story I had to tell.
I’ve long been fascinated by F. Scott Fitzgerald the writer,
but the novel is the result of my becoming again troubled and then lured by
this “lost chapter” in a great love affair.
You’re probably familiar with
the famous cliché “write what you know,” attributed to Sherwood Anderson, as
advice to William Faulkner; and, it’s true, every writer draws heavily and
intimately on what he or she knows. But as readers of fiction we love to read
for what we don’t know. The best advice I’ve ever heard given to authors is to
write the book you would want to read.
So Beautiful Fools is a
narrative that takes shape from what we simply couldn’t know, factually, about
Zelda and Scott.
What I could invent – as
informed by months and months turning into years of research on the
Fitzgeralds, on Cuba, on fashion and lingo and psychology and cockfights from the
1920s and the 1930s — had to stand imaginatively in the space of all that must
remain a mystery to biographers and historians.
Q: In an article for The
Atlantic, you write that you were "raiding a scene from Fitzgerald’s Gatsby
and the real-life incident behind it for my title Beautiful Fools." Can
you explain why you chose to do that?
A: It’s a slightly ironical
title, in that it refers to Scott’s practice of taking notes on his own life
and pilfering his wife’s phrases in the service of his fiction. And now here I
am, in Beautiful Fools, speculating on a missing chapter from the Fitzgeralds’
lives, this trip to Cuba in 1939 of which there’s almost no record.
Most of us will recall, if properly
prompted, the “beautiful little fool” line from The Great Gatsby, which occurs
in the scene where Daisy reports to her cousin Nick what she said on learning
she’d given birth to a girl: “And I hope she’ll be a fool— that’s the best
thing a girl can be in the world, a beautiful little fool.”
But, as I emphasize in that essay for The Atlantic
you just mentioned, I’m riffing even more so on the inspiration behind the piece
of literary dialogue, the line Scott wrote in his ledger recording what Zelda
said after giving birth to their daughter: “I hope it’s beautiful and a fool — a
beautiful little fool.”
Zelda, still dazed from the
ether, isn’t quite making sense when she coins that phrase. She’s not in
performance mode, like Daisy Buchanan, offering some staged remembrance of her
witticism (though both Zelda and Scott were well known for staging stories
about themselves).
Zelda responds intuitively to
the news, not yet understanding what she means, and on the spur of the moment she
makes that odd pairing of “beautiful” and “fool” that gives rise to my title. Scott
heard the beauty and strangeness in the line, but I have to admit I like
Zelda’s original phrasing even better than the words he attributes to Daisy in The
Great Gatsby.
Q: Anything else we should
know?
With regard to the notion of
“beautiful fools,” I should say that, as with any phrase or witticism, it takes
on new meanings in new contexts. So, as I hear it — and I think this is
consistent with Fitzgerald’s
own Romantic strain, which I do share —
“beautiful fools” are idealists, people who stand on hopes and dreams even past
the point at which they’re likely to be fulfilled. Gatsby is the true
“beautiful fool” of Fitzgerald’s most famous work.
And in my novel, of course, Zelda
and Scott become the beautiful fools, living on the borrowed time of past
glory, yet still believing that adversities might be overcome — they were still
so relatively young! — and that the world might again prove yielding and full
of promise.
So they head for Cuba to see
what can happen. One piece of lore that I incorporate into my novel has Scott
leaving a note on his desk at M-G-M, which reports, simply, “Gone to Cuba.” And
Cuba and the cast of characters from Cuba and war-torn Europe (including a
Spanish Republican refugee from the Spanish Civil War and his French wife)
drive the action of the novel as much as Zelda and Scott do.
Which is to say, much of the
drama in the novel follows from random events and characters, as if fate is
chasing down Zelda and Scott’s demons for them. On that level Cuba — as place so
often functions in fiction — serves almost as a character.
There’s high drama on the
second night in Havana after Scott and Zelda are escorted by a local Cubano
named Matéo Cardoña, a key character in the novel, to a bar that plays Cuban son
music, an Afro-percussive genre of music that might be understood as a kind of
step-cousin to jazz.
Then, on the resort beaches
of Varadero, there’s an erotically infused flirtation between the Fitzgeralds
and a Spanish refugee and the French wife/cousin who rescued him from a refugee
camp.
And, if that’s not enough for
those in search of action, toward the end of the novel there’s a cockfight that
yields plenty of violence inside and outside the ring. In short, I create a
chain of events for this week-long holiday that echoes, as it were, the drama
of Scott and Zelda’s adventurous, always surprising lives.
In all candor, I’d say that I
focus on the late 1930s Fitzgeralds, on holiday in Cuba, because at that point
in time they’re most intriguing to me. As they bear up against the hard knocks,
as they challenge their circumstances with their relentless, sometimes
self-delusional hope — well, for my money, that’s when Zelda and Scott put the love
story in overdrive. As it gets truly messy, the story becomes most compelling
to me.
Ultimately, my rendering of
the Fitzgeralds takes the form an adult love story about a couple that usually
typifies all that is “young” and “youthful” for our youth-obsessed American pop
culture. But Beautiful Fools tells the tale of Zelda and Scott after the crash
in their relationship, and depicts them, for all their idiosyncrasies and
flaws, as still devoted to each other.
In the day to day, they fight
off fate, denying or beating back the increasingly inevitable result of not
ending up together, and somehow the love — in whatever strangely altered form
it must assume — survives.
--Interview with Deborah Kalb
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