Deborah Mathis |
Deborah Mathis is the author of Yet a Stranger: Why Black Americans Still Don't Feel At Home, What God Can Do: How Faith Changes Lives for the Better, and Sole Sisters: The Joys and Pains of Single Black Women. Her journalism career includes working as a syndicated columnist and serving as White House correspondent for Gannett News Service.
Q: Your book Yet a Stranger came out more than a decade ago. How have things changed, and
how have they remained the same, since then, and would you say that black
Americans feel more "at home" today or not?
A: Sadly, there is a legion of Black Americans who are still
on the outskirts of mainstream society -- poorly educated, unemployed or
working poor, unhealthy, and with no viable access to opportunities that
can change that. The health and wealth gaps between Black and White
America are outrageous. Equal opportunity remains elusive for so many that
it is impossible to consider it anything but systematic.
So, although it is their homeland, the country is still
inhospitable to many Black Americans. The doorway to the middle class,
which is where opportunity abides, is jammed.
Q: What role has President Obama played in affecting the
country's attitudes toward race?
A: There are two ways to look at this: What has President
Obama meant to race relations and what has his election meant? I'll start
with the latter.
His election in 2008 was powerfully symbolic as (a) Black
America's sense of empowerment, hope and justice; and (b) White America's sense
of redemption and hope. So, the election itself held tremendous potential for
healing racial sores and debunking stereotypes and changing the expectations
game.
However, I don't think President Obama has presented himself
as a bridge to be inserted into the racial divide significantly or often enough
for it to have made a measurable difference in attitudes toward race. He
would have had to consistently remind the public that he is a black man --
explicitly and unambiguously asserting his blackness -- but, of course,
that would have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, including progressives
who prefer the "color blind" tact or believe that race is
irrelevant.
And it would have aggravated those who are the most clearly
-- and, for them, painfully -- aware of his blackness, i.e., the white
Americans who despise the idea of a black man as leader of the world's
most powerful nation, their nation. I'm speaking of the
"take-my-country-back" crowd, which, as we know, includes a huge range,
from rednecks and rabble-rousers to judges to members of the U.S.
Congress.
I'm not saying that President Obama should have been more of
a "race man," in light of his political ambitions (re-election and
beyond), but that's what it would have taken for him to have made a substantial
difference in overall attitudes. As it is, I think he's considered an
"elite" or "exception" to the black norm and, while I agree
that he is a proud example of black preparedness and talent, he is not the only
black man -- or woman -- who could be president of the United States.
So, I guess I'm saying that had he presented himself as more
of "one of us," more people who are misguided about black people (for
whatever reason) might begin thinking that smart, capable black men aren't so
rare after all. I don't think that's happened.
Q: You spent many years covering President Clinton. How
would you characterize the relationship between him and President Obama, and
what do you think Hillary Clinton will do next?
A: I will always believe that Bill Clinton is the most
intuitive, gifted and natural politician of our times. I know that he is
fiercely proud and loyal of his wife and, therefore, I think there was some bad
blood between him and Barack Obama during the 2008 race.
I also think that, had Obama had some of Clinton's
runaway charm -- and he most certainly does not -- Clinton would have been
less cooperative with Obama because it would have stolen Clinton's
thunder.
But, since Obama chose Hillary Clinton as secretary of
state and did not threaten Bill Clinton's political reputation, I
believe Clinton was happy to help in the 2012 race, especially since he got to
play the role of "fixer" and "savior" and since holding the
White House for a possible Hillary occupancy was at stake.
And, absolutely, I think and hope she will run. If she
does, she can win.
Q: What are you working on now?
A: I'm working on a book project -- another non-fiction work
-- about an incredible murder case in Florida. Otherwise, I'm enjoying my
two fabulous granddaughters, ages 4 and 1.
--Interview with Deborah Kalb
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