Bruce M. Caplan's books include The Sinking of the Titanic and Leopold and Loeb Killed Bobby Franks (written with Ken Rossignol). He has spoken frequently about the Titanic, a lifelong interest, in schools, on cruise ships, and in many other places. He lives in Seattle.
Q: How did you first get interested in the Titanic?
A: I was 10 years old, and a movie
came out, “Titanic,” with Barbara Stanwyck and Clifton Webb. I was watching the
show, and a boy who was 14 years old was in a lifeboat and he gave up his seat
to a woman, and Clifton Webb, who was playing the father, put his hand on his
shoulder and said, Son, I’ve never been so proud of you, and my father said,
Son, if you did that I would have killed you! My teacher got us interested in
the film, and I would go to the library; I devoured everything I could [about
the Titanic].
Q: And you’ve been interested in it
ever since.
A: I get interested in a lot of
different topics. I speak on cruise ships—I spoke recently about Leopold and
Loeb, and about old-time radio.
Q: How did your book The Sinking of
the Titanic come about?
A: What happened was that in 1981,
I had a secretary named Mary Ambur, and on my birthday, she gave me an original
copy of a book printed three weeks after the Titanic sank. I was mesmerized. I
realized it was too verbose, and there was no unity and [problems with]
transitions. In 1995 I called the Library of Congress, and spoke to a lady and
asked how long it took for a book to be in the public domain. Seventy-five
years—you can do anything you want with it. I gave complete credit to the
original person; I spent three months reworking it.
Q: What are some of the most common
misperceptions about the Titanic?
A: The biggest misperception about
the Titanic is that the ship was built as unsinkable. They said “practically”
unsinkable, but the newspapers jettisoned the adverb.
After the Titanic hit the iceberg,
people on the Titanic, especially in the first and second classes, were happy
about it. The way [director] James Cameron put it in the [1997 "Titanic"] movie, they didn’t feel there was
any danger. The flooding was in the lower parts.
Q: So the third-class passengers
experienced the problem first?
A: The steerage passengers—they
were called that because they originally were put where the steering mechanism
was—they were lower, they felt and saw the impact of it, the water was in their
cabins.
Q: How long did it take the first
and second-class passengers to realize what was going on?
A: It took about one hour. One
couple was on their honeymoon. The first lifeboat left about 55 minutes after
the hit, and they could only fill it halfway because people weren’t concerned.
The wife said, Let’s get in the lifeboat, we can tell our grandkids about it;
they assumed they would be put back on the boat.
Another interesting thing, I didn’t
realize why they had a gate to block the third-class passengers from going to
the higher cabins. I assumed it was because they didn’t pay that much [so
couldn’t enjoy the amenities]. It was a U.S. health regulation—a feeling that
diseases would come from the third-class passengers.
Q: What other books about the
Titanic do you recommend?
A: A Night to Remember, by Walter
Lord—it was made into a wonderful movie in 1958, a black-and-white movie that
tells the entire story of the Titanic. The Last Log of the Titanic, by David
Brown.
My book has sold over 100,000
copies. There weren’t that many Titanic books [when it came out]. Today, there
are several hundred or more.
Q: You’ve also written about the
Leopold and Loeb case. What interested you in that?
A: My father was in the parking-lot
business in Seattle, and I went into the business; I’m retired now. In the old
days, we didn’t have meter boxes, only attended parking. He’d send me on a bus
downtown and have me work lots across from movie theaters. I would devour
magazines, stories about Leopold and Loeb, two young men who wanted to show
that they were above the morals of society; they thought they would commit one
murder and that would be the end of it. I became fascinated with that.
Q: What are you working on now?
A: I’m working on a fictional work
where a U.S. senator goes against his aide and has an affair with the aide’s
wife, and the aide decides to run against him, but he doesn’t have a warchest.
So he uses social media to show what a creep the senator is. He uses
onlyyourvote.com—I don’t want your money, only your vote. With Eliot Spitzer,
Weiner, money is not going to be nearly as important; social media is going to
be an equalizer. You can get your point across and show how encumbered
politicians are with interest groups and lobbyists.
Q: Anything else we should know?
A: I feel that it’s much easier to
get published today than in years past. I did the Titanic book; it was out in
1996, I had a goal of getting 1,000 books sold. Then there was the movie, the
play, the whole world [was interested in the Titanic]. There’s a Titanic museum
in Branson, Missouri, and another one in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. I was
fortunate that timing was on my side.
What I like to do is to have
history come alive. I speak at schools, and children in second, third grade ask
me, Were you a survivor [of the Titanic]? I tell them it was over 100 years
ago.
--Interview with Deborah Kalb
--Interview with Deborah Kalb
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