Mariana Chilton is the author of the new book The Painful Truth about Hunger in America: Why We Must Unlearn Everything We Think We Know--and Start Again. She is Professor of Health Management and Policy at Dornsife School of Public Health at Drexel University.
Q:
What inspired you to write The Painful Truth about Hunger in America, and what
is that “painful truth”?
A:
For two decades I thought that I would help people who experienced hunger to write
their own books. Throughout, I ensured that a lot of people had a platform to
speak out about their experiences – mainly through photo exhibits with their
testimonies, panel discussions, articles, and op-eds.
But
I learned that writing their own book was not a meaningful option for them
because they were constantly struggling to simply survive and stay healthy.
I
worked with so many people who experienced hunger that I was able to see
patterns that a lot of other people could not see. It was an undeniable pattern
of violence passing through the generations that many researchers, policy
makers, and food justice advocates ignore.
I
wanted to write the book so that no one could continue to ignore the violence
underneath hunger. That’s the painful truth: that violence—the disrespect built
into government programs and the loveless ways we treat each other and the
natural world—creates hunger.
Q:
What would you say are some of the most common perceptions and misconceptions
about hunger in the United States?
A:
Many people refuse to believe there is hunger in the United States. They think it
happens in other countries but not the US. This misconception is because the
dominant narratives in the US insist the US is the richest country in the world,
and that there is minimal poverty in the US. This lie must be exposed.
Here
is another misconception: people believe that hunger can be solved with food.
This clouds people’s vision so much that people are convinced that if they donate
to a food bank that they are helping people.
I
show how food banks and big food companies advertise that they are “combating
hunger.” Their marketing seeps into the minds of our kids—even my own child and
her third-grade teacher.
Their
school was encouraged by the local food bank to create a competition to see who
could bring in the most “pounds” of food. The food bank insisted that the kids could “help the poor” and have fun
doing it. They said winners could have a pizza party or throw a pie in their
principal’s face. See the confusion and disrespect?
I
show how big food companies and fossil fuel industries create so much excess
that they want to cleanse their corporate reputations by appearing charitable.
If
we we’re honest, we’d recognize the emergency food system for what it is: a
candy house hiding cruelty inside of it. It’s a mirror reflection of the well-known
folktale of Hansel and Gretel. They were starving and desperate, and when they
were lost in the woods, a witch wanted to lure them in to eat them, and she did
it through the lie of sweetness glued to the outside of her house.
In
the eyes of Grace, a woman I interviewed who had Type 1 diabetes, it was the
bad food she got at food banks that caused her to be hospitalized. And when she came out of the hospital, she
had no money. So, she went right back to the food bank trying to figure out how
to feed herself.
The
volunteers gave her their corporate excesses, but it was all the kinds of things
she couldn’t eat, like canned beef and SpaghettiOs, which were ultra processed,
had high sodium and low nutrient content.
So,
she simply lugged the food home, looked at what she couldn’t eat, and then threw
it away. There is no justice in that. There is only humiliation and poor
health.
In
similar fashion, the food and beverage industry profits off the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits. Though SNAP helps families stay healthier
than they would be without SNAP, I argue that a universal basic income paid in
cash would be far more helpful and ensure that people who have low incomes
could have the power to spend money in ways most meaningful to them.
Q:
The author Andy Fisher said of the book, “Equal parts memoir and academic
analysis, this book exposes the violence underlying hunger in America while
demonstrating the courage and love needed to end it once and for all.” What do
you think of that description?
A:
This is spot on. Because it’s so hard to be open to the truth, I make it a slow
unveiling to help readers learn along with me in a way that is non-threatening.
I’m
trying to show people how I got to the painful truth. That required me to show
my own emotions, my own questions and insecurities, especially when the scientific
and advocacy communities were hesitant to accept my findings on the violence
underneath hunger.
Also,
I explain that that we must dig deep. I expose how hunger is caused by racism,
sexism, capitalism, and imperialism that people harness in their everyday lives
to harm each other.
Many
women I spoke with had been raped—and this trauma held them back physically,
emotionally and economically. They explained that the police did nothing to
help them and, often, their own families refused to believe them, or they were
punished for bringing it out into the open.
When
so many women explain their suffering and no one does anything about it, when
one in five children live in poverty, when one out of two newborns in this
country are born into poverty with little hope of escape, and when this
suffering seems accepted by our politicians, community leaders, and the public,
it demands we start asking tough questions about ourselves and our
society.
How
do we let this happen? How do I contribute to this society that celebrates
domination and disrespect? How does white supremacy culture and internalized
sexism land in me?
In
asking these questions of myself, not only am I doing my own work to become a
more kind, thoughtful and loving person in the world, but I’m also trying to
model the behavior that I hope to see in others – readers, students,
colleagues, friends, and family.
Q:
What do you see looking ahead when it comes to the issue of hunger in this
country?
A:
People are waking up to our reality – that our society and the way we live is
out of control; often we are without thought for others. With the incoming Trump
administration, there will be many thoughtless policies and disrespectful actions
that will bring great harm to people who are poor. But I have faith in people;
I know we will resist such cruelty.
Specifically,
we must be vigilant and outspoken about the extremely harmful policies in
Project 2025. The Project 2025 playbook seeks to drastically reduce SNAP
benefits.
Though
SNAP has its problems by being married to the food industry, we also know that SNAP
can help people like Grace stay healthy and out of the hospital. We also know that
when SNAP benefits are inadequate, this affects blood sugar and causes more
problems with diabetes.
Additionally,
there are proposals to slash school nutrition programs. But these nutrition
programs support children’s learning, health and wellbeing.
So
not only is there a possibility that families with children, Black and
Indigenous people, and people with disabilities will experience more hunger and
poor nutrition, but our society could become more ignorant by the day.
But
we can fight against this if we take courage, speak up, and build community
that focuses on ensuring everyone gets the food, housing, and other supports
that they need.
This
is a time to get creative with how we share money, food, and support. We ought
to look to mutual aid, cooperative businesses, and other ventures rooted in
solidarity. This is the key to our
survival – staying connected and being in the world with equanimity (without
discrimination).
I
encourage people not to give in to fear. Rather, we need to grow our courage to
resist the energy of hatred and indifference.
Q:
What are you working on now?
A:
I wrote about the importance of healing the harms of violence in order to end
hunger. I insisted, for starters, that the US government ought to return the
land to Indigenous peoples, and that there ought to be reparations for intergenerational
harms of enslavement. This creates expansive opportunities for healing and
repair, and for cherishing each other. I’m continuing that work and going
deeper.
I’m
writing a new book about how public health practice must lead with an ethic of
love and solidarity that is opposed to racism, discrimination, and genocide. In
my personal life, I’m working on the flip side of the same issue.
As
always, I am investigating how such pain and violence lands in the way I feel,
think and act. I am a descendent of enslavers and people who participated in
genocide against Indigenous peoples. So, I am working on showing how that tendency
for domination gets handed down, and how to transform that violence so I can
spread peace and kindness. I’m curious about how proximate this violence is.
One
of my grandfathers, who was remembered as a kind person, helped to create the
atomic bomb. Clearly, the energy of violence is very strong in our society and
also in me. I’m learning how to diffuse the bomb inside of me so that I can
help us stop bombing and killing each other.
Q:
Anything else we should know?
A:
Working on hunger and poverty takes self-awareness and a deep and abiding
commitment to cherish all life. We can start with our food. I remind people
that our food is our kin and ought to be regarded with reverence.
If
we could slow down enough to give thanks to the natural world, to the plants, animals,
and minerals that help to nourish us, we can be healthy and live a more meaningful
life. In Painful Truth, I show how Indigenous people consider corn or rice as
their mother, as their kin. Our plants and our food take care of us.
So,
while I say that in addressing hunger we must go beyond food, I also am trying
to help people understand that the food we eat every day comes from sacred lands and waters and helps
support our lives.
This
is a gift. Every life is precious. If we
can start to have more reverence for the “more than human world” then maybe this
attitude can teach us how to have reverence for each other, to be less racist,
to resist any attempts to disrespect and mistreat women and children, to not
humiliate people who are poor, and to even treat ourselves better.
We
have been gifted with the beautiful opportunity to be human and alive at this time.
Let us not waste these moments, and may we share not only our food with people
around us, but may we also share the best of ourselves through kindness to all
beings.
--Interview with Deborah Kalb